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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thank yo for summing it up.
It would be different she been truthful to her self and said. "I still have feelings for him and always will but it's time for you and me to move on."

Instead she insulted him. Not the best thing to do to Naruto.

"Hey guy that has always liked me. Since the guy I've been fawning over for most of my life kicked me to the curve and is out of reach I guess I'll love you now."

You would have to be a pretty big loser to accept this. Was never a big fan of Naurto and Sakura being together simply because wanting someone who clearly want someone else never turns out well. Now if it does happen it's always going to be tainted by this moment. Who wants to ask themselves for the rest of their life if they are better then the person she really wants. As for her reasoning. She didn't mind him being a missing nin if he had took her with him like she begged. She offered to give up everything then.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

She doesn't want Sasuke. She did, however, 3 years ago. And she seems to be tormented by those past feelings as Sasuke becomes more corrupt. Doesn't mean she loves him more than Naruto, it just means she's actually human. She says it herself, and I'm paraphrasing -- "I can't believe I felt something for a dude like that".

Don't blame her. He did try to kill you, once-upon-a-time.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Why did she pause mid sentance then. Why was there hesitation?

Quote:
Naruto: "But why...? How come...? If you're joking, then this isn't funny at all... Sakura-chan.... Just... What the hell happened[to you]...?"
Sakura: "Nothing, really... I just opened my eyes... I don't need to love someone who is a missing-nin and a criminal, do I? I'm not going to be a child forever. I'm going to look reality in the eye."


And

Quote:
Sakura: "I've just grown apart from Sasuke-kun... But you've always been at my side, Naruto. You cheered me on... I've realized... how you really are. You're a hero who protected the village. Everyone in the villages loves you now.... I've just become one of them... You were that mischievous dead-last... but little by little you've grown lovely and handsome... You were close to me so I saw it. But Sasuke-kun keeps committing crimes... It just breaks my heart... He's just become someone distant to me."
Naruto: "..."


If she didn't still care for him why would it break her heart?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

She still does care about him. She just doesn't love him. It's easy to see why she would still care. He was a part of the team and a friend. To hear of the horrible things he's doing breaks her heart. It's the same thing, or similar to what Naruto feels for Sasuke.

I mean, are we gonna say that based on that, Naruto loves Sasuke? Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

harleywarren wrote:
She still does care about him. She just doesn't love him. It's easy to see why she would still care. He was a part of the team and a friend. To hear of the horrible things he's doing breaks her heart. It's the same thing, or similar to what Naruto feels for Sasuke.

I mean, are we gonna say that based on that, Naruto loves Sasuke? Laughing


............ yes

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Razz

You know, if Sakura loves Sasuke, this is a dumb way to prove it. Instead of asking Naruto to stop chasing Sasuke, she should be 100% behind him bringing him back. That way, when Naruto gets Sasuke back and he's reformed, she can claim him.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

harleywarren wrote:
Razz

You know, if Sakura loves Sasuke, this is a dumb way to prove it. Instead of asking Naruto to stop chasing Sasuke, she should be 100% behind him bringing him back. That way, when Naruto gets Sasuke back and he's reformed, she can claim him.


That I agree with. It's easy for her to say she doesn't want him anymore when he's killing people for his own selfish reason. I don't think she would be saying it if he were back. Though I doubt he will be reformed and return. If anything he'll repent in Naruto's arms as he dies.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I say she still loves Sasuke, and I forgot who mentioned it, but looking at it from a Japanese point of view, she was trying to sacrifice her happiness in a sense for the greater good. But with Naruto himself being the opposite of Japanese (I mean, seriously, Sasuke is clearly the typical Japanese hero in this story) he viewed it as somewhat of an insult. And he also handled it very well.

Yea, Sasuke can't really come back anymore can he? But hey, with mind-changer Naruto in his corner you never know.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Dragon Caesar's Ghost wrote:

Yea, Sasuke can't really come back anymore can he?


Only if he gets down on his hands and knees, and kisses everyone's ass.

I think given the direction the manga has taken his character, he's destined to die in some gay fashion, probably either as a martyr or a villain. He was draped in the arms of Madara!Tobi, and displayed to the entire ninja world as an obvious conspirator to some hackneyed plot to dominate the world using the moon and crazy eye powers. The guy is done for. There's no way he'll ever be considered a good guy now. (Then again, kookier things have happened.)

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:04 am Reply with quoteBack to top

yea, vegeta WAS the one who caused yamcha to die once..and STILL ended up with yamcha's ex-girlfriend. (then again, who really cares about yamcha?) So stranger things have happened. Gotta keep reminding ourselves that this is shonen manga, and evil guys become good all the time. Just they tend to not go from good to bad to good.. Sasuke, you can be the one to break records!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:04 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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Them's fightin' pics!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:23 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I'll take this over the love triangle train wreck any time. I hope the whole chapter is about this fight. And the next one after that.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:21 am Reply with quoteBack to top

his sword looks more like a mace o.0

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It looks like a really fancy backscratcher to me. (lol)

But in all seriousness, with him revealing that sword ability, it makes me wonder who will win that fight. Hopefully, it won't end like the other fights involving Jinchuriki, but knowing Kishimoto and how he likes to screw us over with his acid trips....

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Quote:
Sabu: "The sword changed..."
Samehada: "Gigigigigi"
Killer Bee: "Oh? Hoshigaki Kisame... you say"
Killer bee puts his finger in his mouth and writes the name in a book.
Kisame: "There's ink coming from his mouth...... The rumours were right, he is an octopus guy."
Killer Bee: "He's gonna make you cry in sorrow! This octopus guy! Wiiiiiii!!"

The Tailed Beast cloak goes up to seven tails

Sabu: "The Tailed Beast form... There are seven chakra tails...! Bee is serious!"

Killer Bee: "Did you know?"
Kisame: "What?"
Killer Bee attacks Kisame with a sword in one hand
Killer Bee: "Octopi eat sharks!"
Samehada avoids Killer Bee's assault
(Kisame just set up Samehada, but Samehada is moving on its own, avoiding the attack)

Sabu: "The sword dodged!"

Samehada moves on its own and attacks Killer Bee, but he avoids it.
However, [one of] Killer Bee's tails is eaten.

Samehada: "Gyagigigiii~!!"

Kisame: "It seems that this time, the shark is going to eat the octopus"

Sabu: "He absorbed Bee's chakra again... Furthermore, that guy's sword became huge!"
Killer Bee: "That sword 'Samehada'... It's a fast-eating glutton, but... the amount of chakra it can eat in one time seems to be about six tails..."

He decreases the amount of tails to one.

Killer Bee: "If this version is like this... the next version should do good..."
Meanwhile

Choujuurou: "There it is Mizukage-sama. This time it's here."
Mizukage: "Judging from the flow of the markings, Ao should be around here. Let's hurry."
Choujuurou: "Yes ma'am!"
Meanwhile

Fū: "Dammit... It's useless, as I though..."
Ao's body is moving against his will because of the Shintenshin technique; there's a fuda attached to his right eye (a barrier ninjutsu used by Kiri's ANBU), which he's trying to take off with a kunai.

Fū: "If anything is threatening the eye, it is automatically invoked, hm? A jutsu you guys thought of in what is popularly called the Corpse Processing Team... I didn't think it would be simple... When I gauge out your eye, the eye of the technique's use, my eye, will also become useless... You understand this, right?"

Ao: "Danzou's orders...? What is that subordinate thinking?"

Fū: "This single eye of mine is a small price to pay for lowering Kiri's war potential so much. The barrier is making it impossible right now, but still... Still, I can try as long as I need"

Ao: "What is he planning to do?"

Fū: "If i jump down from here, I won't be able to take the head off. If the eye is impossible, there's nothing left but taking your entire head back to Konoha."

Fū uses Ao's body and climbs a tree, ready to jump down.

Ao: "He's planning to die?"

Fū: "No, when the head is about to go off, I'll cancel the Shintenshin... At any rate, you will die... Once I'm back in my own body, I'll return here and take your head."
Ao: "Oh well... If you're going to do something like that, you have to take care... If you don't you'll fail."

Fū: "What do you mean?"

Ao: "if you get even a little bit scared and cancel the echnique too soon, I'll definately defend myself against the sickle. Supposing I won't die... when you come back to pick up my head, our situations will be reversed, don't you think?"

Fū uses Ao's body to grab the sickle. He aims it and falls.

Kisame: "This is the first time Samehada became this big. He isn't half happy it seems."

Eight-Tails: "Let me out too, change into your Tailed Beast form Bee!"

Killer Bee: "No you idiot! This guy! With eight tails, our attacks are too big; they'll wreck the entire surroundings. Richt now, Sabu-chan-sensei and Ponta are here as well. Furthermore, I finally managed to conceal my body. If I let you out, ti will be like going 'Here's the Eight-Tailed Killer Bee!' "

Eight-Tails: "You're worn out, aren't you Bee! What are you gonna do? Are you gonna use Version 2?"

Killer Bee: "Aayeah~♪ However, in the exchange of blows before, he almost stole all my chakra... Lend me some of yours!"
Eight-Tails: "Hmpf, without me, you'd have been defeated a long time ago"

Killer Bee: "What a brazen speech~♪ You have my thanks for your compassion yeah~♪"

Killer Bee changes into his seven-tailed Tailed Beast form (His entire body turn pitch-black)

Killer Bee: "Let's... go..."

Kisame: "Tailed Beast transformation?"

Sabu: "No! This is... a Tailed Beast's power supressed into a human form..."

Killer Bee: "Lariat!!!!"

On Killer Bee's shoulders, something looking like the skull of a bull appears.

Samehada: "Pigigigigii!!"

Kisame: "Samehada is so exited, it's tripping... The volume of the chakra... its quality... it's incomparable to before... He's the only one of the nine... He has so much control he can use this much chakra and stillm keep his own personality..."
"He cannot eat up such an amount..."
The Lariat crashes into Samehada. Fragments of Samehada fly around.

Sabu: "He did it!!!"

Killer Bee: "Making me go into this version... you're one impatiant, gluttonous sword!"

He goes back to the Tailed Beast cloak

Kisame: "He did it... didn't he..."

Sabu: "It's still alive! Quickly, pay attention!"

Killer Bee: "!?"

Kisame touches Samehada and the wound in his abdomen heals

Kisame: "If my opponent is strong, I'll become stronger in proportion to that strength... I will neither get tired, nor break down."

Sabu: "The sword robs the opposing person of their chakra... then passes it over to its owner as stamina... that's the arrangement?"


I'm not too sure about the sentence "He's the only one of the nine..."

]Kisame: "That is why... I'm called a Tailed Beast without a tails..."

Water Release: Great Exploding Water Colliding Wave (水遁・大爆水衝波, Suiton: Daibaku Suishouha)¹

The entire surface surrounding them becomes like a sea.

Kisame: "If the battle is prolonged, I'll shave off [your chakra] and weaken you as much as it's prolonged... but, the shaved off parts will rapidly strengthen me."

Sabu: "Bee! you have to grab that guy's sword! That sword is the key to his strength!"

Kisame fuses with Samehada.

Killer Bee: "!?"

Kisame: "If you can rip it from my body, that is"

The end.


¹ He used Water Release: Exploding Water Colliding Wave during his fight with Team Gai

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