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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:03 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Theory and Discussion Time once again....... Smile

So I'll try to keep this short and to the point..... (note: try Surprised )


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Alright now that we have a few things rolling with Tobi/Madara's Moon's Eye Plan and the fact that the Bijuu we've come to revere are but divided Chakra's of a single Set...... let us divulge the ramifications of what this could mean...

Firstly, some of you might have thought of this or not.......

Naruto is the Last Jinchuuruki to be caught since the sealing statue has a certain order to which each Bijuu is sealed.....and Tobi/Madara obviously wants to complete the collection and wield the Chakra as it once was to become the Jyuubi Jinchuuruki.... yada yada ....

Since we have this confrontation with Kisame and Killer Bee it seems that if Bee is Caught (which hopefully he won't be before he meets Naruto) Naruto is the last piece however what if Naruto being the last Chakra Piece (Kyuubi)..... I wonder if Naruto could in fact absorb the 8 other Bijuu and he become the Jyuubi's Jinchuuruki...

I know I know......but Naruto and this whole Sage of Six Path's legacy got me thinking that Naruto carries the so called symbolistic body of the sage...... Not to mention that it fits that Naruto would be the one to somehow take all of the Bijuu through some way to revolutionize and help the world to achieve peace as the Sage of the Six Paths did until the rivalry of the two boys began after the sage announced his successor....

It seems to me Kishi wouldn't reveal the Jyuubi for us not to see it's completion......I just hate it for Killer Bee fans because we might see him die......However I also think that the Jyuubi's power is vastly unknown and so it's possible that Naruto via Jyuubi could somehow revive and/or renew some of the damaged caused by the war in a way like Nagato did, but hopefully without dying......

I just think that Kishi isn't going to tease us with the Jyuubi and then have Naruto and crew come in and prevent it from happening........Of course since Naruto is the main character I believe that he won't DIE (have his Bijuu extracted) to reveal the Jyuubi but in fact become the Jyuubi's Host since he is the last piece of the Jyuubi's puzzle......(sidenote: Since the Kyuubi was divided up by Yin and Yang chakra we shall see how that works into this whole plot....in regards to this)

......We all know the 4th via Jiraiya left Naruto with the Sealing Scroll.......so that still has a place to play (have a few ideas about that but we'll see)....

Anyways no real links or groundbreaking ideas.....just some simple observations...to theorize about...and discuss with you all....

Later and thanks for reading in advance...

MX Razz

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:28 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I think the Jyuubi will have another half known as the Lyuubi to create the Myuubi allowing the potential to control the whole universe.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:49 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

About the dividing of the Kyuubi's chakra into Yin and Yang, perhaps Minato did that not just to protect his son from being corrupted by the Kyuubi's sinister mind and malevolent personality. Perhaps he broke the seal into two parts as a countermeasure to the technique that Madara and the rest of Akatsuki has been using to remove the Bijuu from their Jinchuuriki. By splitting the chakra into parts, it may not be possible to complete the ritual at all, not without the key toad's seal formula.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:12 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^ very good point my sir. very good point.

well but how would minato know the extraction technique of akatsuki?



well another plothole i guess....

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

MineMineMine wrote:
^ very good point my sir. very good point.

well but how would minato know the extraction technique of akatsuki?



well another plothole i guess....


Perhaps not...

Given the Uchiha clan's inborn self-righteousness, arrogance, and belief in their own superiority together with the fact that Madara loves to hear the sound of his own voice by regailing everyone with LONG stories... I bet he told him his entire plan during the Kyuubi's attack. Of course, every Uchiha (Except for Itachi) always underestimates his/her foes, and Minato is regarded by many as the greatest Shinobi ever born in Konohagakure, so it is possible that he could have figured out a way to throw a major wrench into his plans.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:28 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

All I have to say about the Jyuubi, is that Kishimoto is on crack and his plot ideas are getting pretty outrageous...

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Kyuubi_No_Shinigami wrote:
All I have to say about the Jyuubi, is that Kishimoto is on crack and his plot ideas are getting pretty outrageous...


The odd thing is that the Jyubi's eye looks like the Rinnegan and Sharingan combined, which now makes me wonder if being the Jyubi's Jinchuuriki somehow altered the genetic code of the Sage and hsi descendants, and how exactly they discovered how to use their respective gifts. And the one plothole that continues to annoy me is that it was said that the Sharingan was (possibly) derived from the Byakugan, yet Kishimoto has failed to give us a concrete answer whether that is true or not, and if so what role the Byakugan plays in the scheme of things.

Perhaps there was some truth to the Tengu theory and Kishimoto had no choice but to come up with something else in a hurry, and in desperation, borrowed the first thing he could from some fanfic writer in the middle of nowhere.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

So I'm guessing the shiz is gonna lead up to Naruto, being a sage, will gain the power of the Rinnegan and we'll go head to head with a Sharingan user. I don't know. With all the theories and shiz going on, it makes me think that.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:12 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

couple comments and couple questions...

what is the definition of a sage for this manga....(has it even been revealed)

is it just someone who trains longer and harder? Is it someone who can manupulate other energy? Does a sage only pertain to natural chakra? I guess what I am trying to ask is to what extent must you be to be called the sage...Is the sage of the six paths a master of natural chakra also or not? I think pein did not use it. In fact one of the peins died at narutos hands when he absorbed to much natural chakra.

The reason I ask is just because naruto is called a "Sage" per say...is he comparable to the "sage" of six paths...or is it like comparing apples and oranges.

Next...I dont think that madara knows that the 4th seperated the nine tails chakra. If he does how? But I think that might play a big role in the 10 tails resurrection. Of course with the power that this 10 tails possess I would think it could resurrect the other half of the nine tails from the death god.

...has anyone thought of the idea of the best way to beat madara might be to let him become the host of the 10 tails....I know everyone is saying "What are mad"...hear is why....madara can not be touched by anyone else unless he touches you first...and even that is not solidified (pun) yet....what if as madara put it he would become complete again, that he would become mortal "per say" again and be able to die once more. As said the sage of the six paths died of old age. He was not immortal...this would make madara beatable(putting aside that he now possess the ten tails)

...finally ok lets say the ten tails is resurrected and they some how kill madara...Is or isnt a problem now that the ten tails is rampaging threw the villages. I thought it was said that the sage had to seperate the ten tails because he could not destroy it either....hmmm....oh well...I need some input...

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:17 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Sage is someone who can use Sage techniques (Senjutsu) which involves the combination of one's chakra with nature's chakra. You can't call yourself a sage from just pure training and ejaculating.

I think there's a possibility that Madara knows about the separation just because he was around when it happened.

And I don't understand your point in your last paragraph.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:17 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^ I think he was saying they can't allow Madara to resurrect the Jyuubi because even if they manage to kill Madara, the Jyuubi will still be impossible to defeat.

At least I think that's what he meant...

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You can't call yourself a sage from just pure training and ejaculating.


I disagree.

Lol, kidding aside, I honestly don't know what makes someone a "Sage". I assume the Sage of the Six Paths could use Natural Chakra, only because he was practically a god.

Also, is it in the manga that Madara was around during the battle between Yondy and Kyuubi? I don't remember, so I'm asking, haha...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I meant he was like involved in it (he's the one who released the Kyuubi). He may not have witnessed it first-hand but still a possibility that he somehow found out.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

thanks kyuubi, that is pretty much what I was trying to decribe. it is puzzling whether or not the 10 tails will be resurrected. the story can go both ways

as for madara being there when the 4th and the 9 tails were fighting...

from the nine tails
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/03/
from the 4th
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/455/13/

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/440/08/

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Wow I fail, lol. Such important information that I keep forgetting. Need to slow down when I read the chapter, lol.

So that is what you were trying to describe? Awesome, glad I could help clear that up.

In regard to Madara knowing the chakra is split, it's almost impossible to tell at this point. But if he does, whatever Minato was planning for Naruto to do by splitting the chakra might not even work...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^you might be right but yet again the fourth knew something....that is why he gave it to naruto.

but naruto may loose the 9tails power(to madara). The thing that his dad(4th) said was..
"without some special power, there would be no way to fight him(madara).

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/440/08/

Is the special power the nine tails or is there something more to the sage power.
or something else that naruto will learn. this is where I have come to listen to max's theories he did believe that that the key given to naruto was going to play a big role. Also copiled with the jutsu to be completed....

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/370/11/

what is that jutsu? I am still waiting for max's theory on it...but I think it could maybe the rasengan completion....hmmm....probably not but what it may be is the host sealing jutsu...

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/370/11/

oh by the way I think it was stated by someone up above that pein used natural chakra that is wrong...

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/435/006/

if pein used it he would have not said..."looks like sage chakra can be risky"

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